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A
two days workshop on the awareness of human rights for the
grass-root level activists was organised on part of the Agrarian
Reform Network
programme. This was the first programme organised by the Social Development
Foundation/ FIAN UP in this predominantly backward reason where land
has been the main issue for long. Chitrakoot has a very historic background.
Accordingly, Hindu God Rama came here along with his wife Sita and brother
Laxmana after being exiled by his father for a fourteen years in the
forest. Kol tribal community which has the main target of our human right
campaign has not been given the status of tribal in Uttar-Pradesh. While
in the Madhya Pradesh region (half of Chitrakoot district falls in Madhya-Pradesh)
they have been declared as tribal. Hence it became important for us to
organise and support the tribal’s fight for the land rights.
Objective :
To train the grass root activists working among the landless agriculture
workers about their human and constitutional rights. To make them aware
of the landlaws of the country and how does the land fraud take place.
How can they organise their protest and involve others outside their
area in their struggle. What actually is the violation of human rights.
How can the activists at the rural level fight in the local Panchayats
( local self government in the villages) for their rights.
Issues : The main agenda of the workshops were the following :
1. What are human rights ? What are the international human rights laws
?
2. What is the constitutional position on human rights ?
3. What should an activist do on the condition of violation ?
4. How do we make a report on the violation of human rights ?
5. How to write protest letters
6. What is networking
7. What are the constitutional rights of women ?
8. What are the land laws ? How land fraud are committed ?
9. What is the agrarian Reform campaign ?
10. What are the obligation of Panchayats ?
Place
of Workshop : Chitrakoot Seva Ashram, Mission Road, Karvi ( Chitrakoot)
UP
Composition of Participants : There
were about 40 participants from different walks of life
who have been directly working on the issue of land rights.
Some of them belong to Kol community, others from Dalit groups and a
large number of them belong to peasantry backward communities. About
4 women also participated in the deliberations. These women’s have
been working on the women’s rights in the area. Some of them have
been victim of social ostracisation because they challenge the powerful
male dominant society and its norms.
Panel of trainers :
V.B.Rawat, human rights activist and co-ordinator
of the programme
Sanjay Rai, a Dalit activist from Uttar-Pradesh, with wide experience
on the issue of dalit rights and grass root struggles
Sanjay Vijayvergia : A human rights activist from Uttar-Pradesh and trained
in the economic social rights of the people.
Mr Hari Shankar Singh : Convenor of Chitrakoot Seva Ashram and a land
measurement expert
Prof. Vinod Shankar Singh
: Head of the department, Political Science,
Mahatma Gandhi Gramodyog Vishwavidyalaya ( Chitrakoot),
Prof. Amarjeet Singh, Department of Social Sciences, Mahatma Gandhi Graomodyog
Vishvavidyalaya ( Chitrakoot), an expert on Panchayati Raj System
Ms Madhavi Kukereja, from Vanangana ( a women’s group working for
the rights of women)
Workshop report : Day 1
: Inaugurating the workshop, the co-ordinator
of Social Development Foundation dealt extensively on the issue of Agrarian
Reform campaign being organised by the Agrarian Reform Network. The problem
of the landless agriculture labour is manifold and has many dimensions.
Agrarian reform has wider meaning and much beyond the old land reform.
Accordingly, a state cannot sit silent by just providing half an acre
land to the farmers. He sought the example of South Africa where a National
land committee was formed by the government to look in to this issue
with a wider frame work. The main objective of the land reform are the
following :
Redressing the historical injustices,
Restructuring power relations,
The alleviation of rural poverty, and
Contribute to economic growth
Since in India, landless agricultural workers are mainly belonging to
Dalit and tribal communities who have been socially outcasts and there
was a need today to bring the agrarian reform back to the agenda of the
government. Rawat informed the delegates the details of Tagaytay meeting
held on 6-7 October 1999 where delegates express need to strive on three
important sector for common effort :
revive agrarian reform on national and international agendas,
support the struggles of peasants to gain access to productive assets
and
popularise the need to empower the rural poor by insuring their secure
access land,
water, common property, credit, technology and markets,
Rawat was critical in his opinion about the so-called farmers movement
in India which was feudal in nature and has everything in contradiction
with those who actually do the farming work. Hence there is dire need
to provide the landless agricultural wage labour and marginal farmers
a platform where they can voice their concern. The big farmers would
not be interested in land reform as it will jeopardise their own interest.
The entire land reform movement ( if it there) has been hampered in the
court proceedings and none of them have ever resolved so far. Court has
therefore become shelter place for the land-owners who file writ petition
and it never come for judgement during the life time of the poor peasant.
He/she does not have any recourse except to blame it to his luck and
misfortune. Hence land laws need to be effectively implemented and documentation
need to be done not at the government level but also at the NGO level.
Let us train the activists and people about land laws and the legal recourse
that they have. But a community which cannot struggle for its land right
cannot win just sitting ideally. They need to assert where they get a
chance. In a democratic society, elections, and elected representatives
are the best people to be questioned about their motive and planning.
Let the people do this and question their representatives. Why cannot
he pressurise the government.
Mr Amarjeet Singh, from department of political science, Mahatma Gandhi
Gramodhyog University, trained the participants about their could be
role in Panchayat bodies ( local self government at the village level).
Singh said that Panchayat has become a power instrument to govern the
village after the government passed the 73rd-74th amendments bills in
Parliament which gave immense power to Panchayats and their representatives.
It was a republic at village he opined. Number of women are being elected
to Panchayats and they need to know about their rights and duties so
that they can help the people and society by strictly following them.
In many villages some hitherto unrepresented sections of society like
the Dalits and backward classes have also been elected to Panchayats
and they have performed excellent. He said that the activists should
also seek and advice the Panchayat representatives and do the needful
and better planning for the villages. It is therefore important for social
activists at the village level to use their democratic rights through
Panchayat and participate in its activities. They can guide the Panchayat
representatives about their rights and duties and develop plans for the
development of community and society.
In the post noon session, Sanjay Rai spoke about the rights of Dalits
and tribals in the constitution. He also spoke extensively about the
democratic movement in India for the rights of have nots. Sanjay cited
examples from various clauses from the Indian constitution which give
special protection to Dalits and tribals like Protection of civil rights
act, SC-CT atrocities act, land alienation act and other such acts. He
informed the activists how they can mobilise support for their cause
and what could be the best way to get them heard. How they can network
their cause in the State capital in Lucknow and union capital in Delhi.
Sanjay Vijayvergia, an expert on Economic social rights dealt extensively
on the issue of food security and how it is being hampered by the globalisation
process. He gave example from the local experiences how the government
lease the big forest to the multinational giants and tap their resources
while the poor tribals are displaced in the name of environment. The
government has also found a new way to displace the tribal by declaring
the forest as the revenue forest and National Park. This is a dangerous
trend and affect the food security of the tribal. We must resist this
at the local, state, national and international level.
V.B.Rawat trained the participants about the international of human rights
and how it could be effective at the national level. He said that we
must know about international obligation of the government as this help
the people that rights are not charity but government obligation to international
community. He spoke about the international covenants on civil and political
rights and later on Economic Social Cultural Rights. Indian government
has ratified all the government and how it the duty of the government
to fulfil its obligation made to international community.
Workshop Day 2
: In the first session, Mr Romesh Chandra of Chitrakoot
Seva Ashram spoke the constitutional rights of women. Many participants
had narrated the incident on harassment of women and hence it became
important for us to inform them about their rights. Romesh said that
Indian constitution was the first one which gave the voting rights to
women, equal job opportunities. If they are not paid fair wages they
can challenge the person in the court of law. According to law, wife
has share in property rights and daughters also has a right in the property
of father.
The debate during this session was interesting and was joined by renowned
social activist on atrocities against women : Madhavi Kukrejea participated
in the deliberations. People talked about cultural onslaught being created
by the globalisation. The issues also came during the discussion that
though women have constitutional guarantee yet we have failed to implement
because of social prejudices. Because our societies in South Asia are
still run mostly by the religio-ethnic laws rather than the constitution
of our countries hence despite tall claims of secular and progressive
constitutions we still lag far behind to those of European countries
and Americas as literacy has not reached to the lowest of the low in
our society. And despite education, the prescribed social practices are
so powerful that most the women feel it safe, not to revolt against it.
Madhavi spoke on violence against women after marriage but forgot to
mention about the domestic violence on unmarried women at own home. Which
was an important issue she said but still empowerment have helped the
women. Fortunately, the Indian rural women is more powerful than the
city based educated women who have been swept away by the change of globlaisation.
In the rural India women may be illiterate but they do more physical
work than men and can even fight to save their honour in case of any
assault. Chitrakoot itself is an example how the dalit and Aadivasi women
are doing some of the most unorthodox work as far as women as are concern.
Most of these Aadivasi women are doing meson work and repairing work
of the handpumps in the villages which is still a male domain in cities
and elsewhere. This is a sign of change, she said.
In the second session, Sanjay Rai trained the participants about how
to write protest letters to authorities which we have been using for
the FIAN purpose. The participants were divided in five groups and given
time frame to make their presentation
In the after noon, V.B.Rawat trained them about writing report on atrocities
and violation of human rights and who should they write and contact.
It was a very fruitful session and the participants were again divided
to five working groups and were given specific time to prepare a report
of violation and give atleast three examples which they can claim the
violation of human rights. The afternoon session was devoted to presentation
and debates.
In the final session, which was of utmost importance not for the participants
but for us also who have come from outside. It was a session, lectured
by Hari Shankar Singh, who was a government employee in the revenue department
and who was incharge on several occasion on how to measure the land.
Hari informed us about how the authorities play foul with the land measurement
and what should be done. it was the most important session as far as
the programme was concerned. Hari need to be given more time to train
the intellectuals and NGOs about the forgery done in the land issue as
it is not just the land given by the government or entitlement problem.
The problem lies somewhere else. There are cases where the land at the
paper is something and measured much less that what is the legal entitlement
because the land official, as we do not understand the language and measurement
units of the revenue officials. We are told that it differ from each
district in the same state. Agrarian Reform Network, now has the duty
to spread this task and do the needful, said Hari Shankar. He offered
his unconditional support for the cause of the land issue and agrarian
reform campaign. Hari has faced dismissal on various occasion due to
his social leaning and work.
Resolution :
The workshop unanimously passed a resolution thanking the
Social Development Foundation, New Delhi , FIAN (UP) and Agrarian Reform
Network for raising the issue of marginal farmers, landless peasants
which they hope will highlight their
problems The participants felt that the land problem in Uttar-Pradesh
need to be on the top of agenda for the civil society organisation but
has the most difficult task as the land Mafia involve the political leadership
of the state also. It is therefore difficult for any district or village
to fight this issue in isolation. Hence, the issue be raised at the national
and international level so that the struggling masses get moral support
for their cause. The participants also condemned the onslaught of the
New Economic Policies which was destroying their natural resources. Alternative
methods of income generation was one of the main demands of the workshop.
There is a dire need to aware the people on the issue of training on
measurement, legal entitlement and the real entitlement. We need to strengthen
our legal cell and documentation cell. Social Development foundation
was authorise to plan carefully for a village project which can help
the rural poor.
The
participants gave some suggestion at the end of the workshop
which are included herewith.
Suggestions :
1. Documentation of the land violation at the village level.
2. Awareness about legality of land rights in the villages first.
3. Lack of information. People do not know about their own land. It has
to be in their understandable language.
4. Indigenous production need to be increased.
5. Right management of the land
6. Use of Chemical fertilisers should be banned in the villages
7. the fields should be properly carved
8. No need for land revenue
9. the measurement of land should be proper
10. Importance of education
11. Importance to involve women in the entire system
12. land need to be planed
13. irrigation resources need to be made available to the villages
14. measurement has to be unified.
15. Water management be done by the government
16. govt organise water, seeds and fertilisers
17. The beneficiary should get land not on papers but in actual and measurement
be done in front of him
18. Awareness need to done on the issue of allotted land
19. the prices of the crop be in the hands of farmers
20. the community land in the villages be distributed to landless Dalits
and tribals
21. Agricultural labours must be paid as per labour laws rule and government
must ensure that agricultural-wage labour has the social security that
any industrial labour enjoys.
22. Govt must form special court to resolve the land issue. Special court
need to redress the land related issue as court have become the biggest
shelter place for the feudal elements who file writ which is never decided
during the life time.
Coverage in Local Media and our visit to struggling masses
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The workshop
was reported in the local Hindi media. The team of activist spoke
to the people who are fighting with for their land rights and went
to such remote areas at considerable risk. At one place we were escorted
by the arms guards to prevent us from any attack by the feudal elements.
People are still fighting for the cause. The plus point of our workshop
was that it has instilled a new confidence among the grass-root people,
the victim of our civilisation, that there are people who care for
them, listen their grievances and are ready to support for their
cause. Our visit to those remote areas, where no other team ever
visited, where people are struggling to earn their basic livelihood,
was a moral booster in their cause. If we are able to produce some
alternative resources mobilisation programme in the second phase
of Agrarian Reform Network programme, it will be a great achievement.
People have offered their support for the programme, they need a
platform , a support group who has ideas and not just agitationist
mind. It is our earnest hope that the endeavour of the AR Network,
FIAN international and other rights group will help attain these
people the basic human rights. In the 21st century, people must have
a land to live and earn. People must have right to natural resources
and agricultural worker must be paid fully as per the labour laws
of the country.
Report
on two days Land Literacy workshop organised by Social Development
Foundation on the Land Rights for the Tharus and Mushhar communities
in Madhuban ( Mau) Uttar Pradesh Under the Agrarian Reform Network
of Popular Coalition.
Date
: May 23rd and 24th,2000
Recourse
Persons : V.B.Rawat, Ms Namita Rawat and Lav Kush Vishwakarma
Guest : Richards Trenchards from Popular Coalition
Programm Schedule :
1. A Note on the progress report of Agrarian Reform Network by V.B.Rawat
2. Introduction by participants
3. What are rights ? Details of International Covenants on Civil and
Political Rights and Economic Social Cultural Rights by Namita Rawat
4. Our Constitutional Rights
5. How to write protest letters by Namita Rawat
6. How to write the report of violation of human rights by V.B.Rawat
7. Experience sharing dialogue conducted by V.B.Rawat
8. Expectation and future plan of action as suggested by participants
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the beginning of the programme, the co-ordinator of the Social
Development Foundation V.B.Rawat welcomed the guest from the
Popular Coalition Mr Richard Trenchards for his zeal and enthusiasm
that despite his tight schedule he made it possible to be in
the workshop right from the morning. Rawat, later on informed
the participants about the Popular Coalition and its programmes.
How far we have succeeded in diseminating the information to
the people of the world. It is a fact that land in India is the
most important issue though the hostile media and intellectual’s
dishonesty continue to deny it that importance which it should
have got. Agrarian Reform Network was formed to share the knowledge
of information regarding the success stories in the land struggle
in different parts of the world so that people from other parts
of the world could learn a lesson from them and may replicate
those things in their own countries. This network has already
generated sufficient no of expectation from the victim groups
which are a part of social development foundation’s campaign
for Agrarian Reform. Rawat also informed the meaning of Agrarian
Reform and why it was necessary for the people and why we are
not just talking in the sense of land reform. Land reform is
somewhat narrow, he said while the Agrarian Reform is a broader
meaning in which not only the right of an agricultural labour
to acquire land is included but right to education, health and
shelter also form the part of human rights of the landless agricultural
labour. The government cannot and should not feel vindicated
even if they have just given a small piece of land to the farmer
whose fertility is not established and which is economically
not viable. Another important issue of Agrarian Reform is that
it consist of agricultural labour, wage labour, fishermen, boatmen,
and all other landless workers who are skilled workers and whose
right to land and natural resources are under threat. The aim
of Agrarian Reform network is not only share information but
also to strengthen the grass-root movements in the country and
try to get them help from international agencies in their hour
of crisis.
So far more than 100 countries in 7 continents form the part of the network.
Social Development Foundation has been honoured with the task of building
up the network programme in Uttar-Pradesh. We have already finished our
human rights workshop on the land issue specially related to Kol tribals
in Chitrakoot district of Uttar-Pradesh. The Foundation was also instrumental
in organising in Lucknow the South Asian Seminar on Agrarian Reform under
the network in April this year. The foundation is also making a documentry
on the land struggle of Tharus, Kols and Mushhars in Uttar-Pradesh, he
said.
What are Rights :
Namita Rawat gave a through description
of rights prescribed by the UN Declaration of human rights. She told
the participants that
all men are born equal and that there have two important documents as
far as human rights are concern, at the international forum which have
set the standard of human rights all over the world and which make it
obligatory to the state who have ratified those covenants to honour and
protect them. She spoke at length on the International Covenant on Civil
and Political Rights and later on International Covenant on Economic
Social and Cultural Rights. ‘ Rights are not a favour from the
government but a constitutional guaranttee and you must know about your
rights in the constitution so that no body could exploit you,” she
remarked. There had been a long history of human rights movement in the
country and we must learn lesson from that. Today, when you are denied
of your right to access land, forest and water, that constitute a serious
violation of your constitutional rights which our government has solemnly
affirmed during the making of the constitution of India. She also informed
the participants about the fundamental rights provided in the constitution
as well as the directive principles of our constitution which make it
obligatory on the state to fulfil those directives which are meant to
provide protection to the oppressed communities in the country.
The participants were very attentive to the information. Hence to make
these things more effective five groups of participants were formed to
discuss among themselves the practical aspect of Economic, Social, Cultural,
Civil and Political rights in their local circumstances. What do they
think of those rights ? Every group was supposed to make a presentation
during the Lunch time. All the groups discussed these issues in details
and later made their presentations. It reflected their understanding
of human rights. It was heartening to see the Tharu woman explaining
the meaning of human rights to the participants. A new dawn has thus
appeared on the horizon as women’s outnumbered men in the workshop
and participated enthusiastically.
How to write Letter
It is important for the participants to know the art of letter writing
since they face the wrath of the authorities and if there is no protest
on the activities of the authorities and solidarity expressed by the
supporters, then the situation become more exploitative in nature and
hence one of the most important thing of these workshops is imparting
training to the participants on writing protest letter. Executive Secretary
of Social Development Foundation Namita Rawat, imparted this important
training to the participants. Later, the participants were divided in
to several groups and were asked to discuss and write do the mock exercise
of letter writing. They were expected to make their presentation during
the post tea session.
Most of the participants narrated the real life incidents of their areas
which they felt were violation of human rights. It was really an enlightening
experience for us.
Field Visit by Richard Trenchard :
In the evening the
representative from Popular Coalition Mr Richard Trenchard made a field
visit along
with V.B.Rawat, Namita Rawat and Lav Kush Vishwakarma to village Lathia
which does not have any electricity as well road connection with the
rest of the world. It was dark outside. As the news spread of our coming
to the area, hundreds of men, women and children came to narrate their
problems. Even in the dark people were ready to offer us hospitality,
sweet water and wanted us to sit there and listen to their grievances.
These were the areas where not even the socalled NGOs have reached leave
alone the political leaders. Even in the dark the women, children people
kept shouting slogan for women’s liberation and Developmental work.
The village is the typical example of our neglect to the indegenous population.
More than 200 families live in the village and they do not even have
an electricity, school, Primary Health Center and road connection. The
most important thing for the villagers have become the connecting road
which is being objected by the similar oppressed groups of the other
village whose fields the road pass on. We promised them that the network
would make every effort to solve their problem.
Later on we drove to another village, this time belonging to Mushahar
community, perhaps most oppressed community of Uttar-Pradesh at this
point of time, who are not only denied the status of being tribal but
who donot own any land. Mushhar are a sheer minority community which
cannot even effect the political outcome of an election and hence this
antipathy for them in the region. They have always been hounded by the
landlords, the Police and the mafias. Never got any wage as per the government
rules and have nothing to live.
Their houses and village is to be seen and to be believed by ones own
eyes. What do you talk of human rights when we are not even considered
human, said a villager.” In front of the fire on which they were
cooking the evening meal, a young boy of sleeping perhaps he had slept
without eating. I asked what are you cooking and replied one of them
that they were cooking some Jwar, a local inferior product which is often
given to them in kind by the land lords without paying the wages. What
was their problem, I asked, and pat came the reply : survival of life.
There is no forest now on which they were dependent heavily. The entire
forest area has been developed into a township and hence no source of
forest produce now for them.
What do they do I asked. They no nothing except working as agricultural
labour which is on the mercy of the landlord who exploit them.
2nd Day
Report Writing
Part of our programme is contributed to strengthen the skill of the people
to make protest and exploit the protest like writing protest letters
and making reports on the violation of human rights. V.B.Rawat has been
instrumental in making many reports on the violation of human rights
in India and on various occasion has a wide range of interaction with
the victim groups and hence he has been trying hard to train the villagers
to write these report themselves so that they are not dependent for everything
on the city people. The aim of this report is to enable the village level
activist make an efficient report for his supporter in Delhi or abroad
who maynot visit the affected areas immediately. This report this save
a lot of time of the people and activists who come all the way from far
away. After this was done, the participants were divided in groups and
were asked to present a report in the day time. Most of the participants
prepared the fact finding report which they were witness in their own
areas.
Sharing of Experiences:
In the afternoon, as per the schedule a dialogue
was conducted by V.B.Rawat with the participants. They were asked various
question related to them and their villages. In this session, a large
number of issues came which the participants felt utmost important for
their life.
Hemvati, a young Tharu girl from Lakhimpur reported that the landlords
do not allow the Tharu girls go outside their fields during the harvesting
season. They are kept bonded and forced to sleep in the open sky during
the night with danger of being sexually molested by the landlords. They
do not even get 50 cent a day for their 24 hours work in the field of
the landlords.
An interesting question put by Rawat was what do they think of Land ?
Most of the participants felt Land is their mother. It is the source
of everything for them. This is an immoveable property, a source of employment.
It is also related to politics. Political leaders take money in the name
of land since politics in India starts from land. Land, forest and water
are the main sources of life but we do not have any control, was the
answer from another group which discussed the issue.
The story from Mushahars was that the local revenue official was not
implementing the Panchayat resolution which has granted them agricultural
land. According to them the revenue officials were under tremendous pressure
from the landlords and hence is not willing to give the Mushhar the community
land which has been legally granted by the Panchayat which is an autonomous
local self government.
During the discussion several issues which were specific to several communities
came up. Like the main problem for the Tharus were the following :
a. All the land owned by Tharus is in the hand of the government
b. Most of their land is unirrigated
c. Due to declaration of forest village, Tharus are forced to leave the
village
d. The land mortaged to landlords never returns
Main
obstacles:
Revenue officials, LekhPals ( local revenue officer),
Sub District Magistrate, Political leaders, village Panchayat
leaders and the Revenue Policy.
Suggestions :
Government does the boring of tube well, open up new canal,
animal husbandry. The Tharus grow spices and
Hence it would be appropriate for the government to support them in this
venture for initiating a small scale industry for the same. There is
a dire need to spread land literacy among the Tharus.
2. issues for Mushahars
When we do not have land then where is the problem. We are not even of
aware of what land do we have. Whereever we are staying is full of filth
and dirt. The dirty water and waste comes from the landlords to our side
and we cannot do anything. We have to live on that.
Main obstacles : Revenue Officials, Police Officials, local political
leaders
Suggestion : Either NGOs or the government contribute land to them.
3. Issues of the villages as emerged during the dialogue
a. No schools, No panchayat building, toilet facilities and connecting
roads, no water unlogging system, no house to live, no eletricity and
potable water
Main
obstacles : Landlords, police and revenue officials, Panchayats
working in league with the administration and hence not willing
to work for the landless
Suggestions : Distribute the land and give the possession to the landless,
give them better seeds and train them in the management skills. Ensure
minimum wages act in the villages. There should be proper water management
system in the villages. Land literacy programme should be vigorously
pursued. Marginalised communities like Tharus, Mushhars and other Most
backward classes should be supported by the government and the NGOs for
their development so that they can compete with others.
Field
Visit : There was a second visit to the area of fisherman community
which has fought a very big battle to regain the Pool about 600
acre in area from 1960 and finally they got the entitlement in
1994. It was a great achievment for the union of 22 villages
fishermen committee. Richards Trenchard, V.B.Rawat and Lavkush
went along with the local fisherfolks to see the Taal where this
great event has taken place. The entire muddied stretch of about
more than two kilometer was covered by all the three and finally
they were taken in the mid of the Taal to show them how the Taal
is facing the antipathy of the government and local bodies who
do not want it to grow. The story is that the government wanted
to take control of the Taal ( pool) but the fisherfolk decided
to fight. More than one Lakh rupees costed to them in the litigation
in the local court. They hired one of the best lawyers of the
district to represent them and who could present their view point
fairly. After years of battle today the fisherfolk have some
sense of achievement. But not before telling that if the oppressed
communities have enough monintory resources, they can fight every
battle in this country as there is every instrument available
here but only thing is lack of fund. Who will fight their case
free of cost. If we want a professional lawyers to consider our
cases than we have to pay according to the profession and market
value of the lawyer.
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